Announcement

Announcement Module
Collapse
No announcement yet.

Supplements may be linked to TC?

Page Title Module
Move Remove Collapse
X
Conversation Detail Module
Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Az09
    started a topic Supplements may be linked to TC?

    Supplements may be linked to TC?

    Found an interesting article(across multiple sites) that states taking bodybuilding supplements may increase risk of TC.

    Links to articles :
    http://www.medicaldaily.com/using-bo...-cancer-329294
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...ts-and-cancer/


    Alot of people are claiming it to be B.S. Not sure how true this is, i for myself however used to take alot of supplements(creatine,whey,fat loss etc) and cant deny but to believe this. My risks of having TC was almost to NONE. (NON white, No history of undescended tc's or smoking cigarattes etc etc.) So i am really inclined to believe supplements may have played some role.

    Thought of sharing with my fellas who are on same boat as a good knowledge for us and others.

  • NailFace
    replied
    Originally posted by biwi View Post

    Not to discount anything you said, but undescended testicles are one of the few things that increase your risk of TC compared to the general population. Diets effect has been studied and while unhealthy diets certainly lead to poorer physical health, eating pretty much anything off the shelf in a grocery store in moderation is not going to increase your cancer risk.
    I know undecended testicles increase the risk, hence why i said i'm not sure i qualify due to having it in both testicles, my point was along the lines of what Profion was saying that modern diets increase the development of cancer and i have to agree.

    Leave a comment:


  • biwi
    replied
    Originally posted by NailFace View Post
    I'm not sure i qualify because I've used creatine for years, and whey and other protein products plus flax seed, green tea powder, literally every legal powder or potion. I also had double undecended testicles as a young guy. I agree with Profion, the world of convenience, microwave foods, oven ready dinners has caused this by putting chemicals they don't even have names for into your food. Doing what you think as healthy (training etc) doesn't protect you from these chemicals, pesticides, growing aids, green leaf enhancer they're everywhere. is buying organic enough now? i'm not sure
    Not to discount anything you said, but undescended testicles are one of the few things that increase your risk of TC compared to the general population. Diets effect has been studied and while unhealthy diets certainly lead to poorer physical health, eating pretty much anything off the shelf in a grocery store in moderation is not going to increase your cancer risk.

    Leave a comment:


  • NailFace
    replied
    I'm not sure i qualify because I've used creatine for years, and whey and other protein products plus flax seed, green tea powder, literally every legal powder or potion. I also had double undecended testicles as a young guy. I agree with Profion, the world of convenience, microwave foods, oven ready dinners has caused this by putting chemicals they don't even have names for into your food. Doing what you think as healthy (training etc) doesn't protect you from these chemicals, pesticides, growing aids, green leaf enhancer they're everywhere. is buying organic enough now? i'm not sure

    Leave a comment:


  • randy455
    replied
    Originally posted by Az09 View Post
    Found an interesting article(across multiple sites) that states taking bodybuilding supplements may increase risk of TC.

    Links to articles :
    http://www.medicaldaily.com/using-bo...-cancer-329294
    http://toptestosteroneboosters.org/ (mentioned safe testosterone boosters here)
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...ts-and-cancer/


    Alot of people are claiming it to be B.S. Not sure how true this is, i for myself however used to take alot of supplements(creatine,whey,fat loss etc) and cant deny but to believe this. My risks of having TC was almost to NONE. (NON white, No history of undescended tc's or smoking cigarattes etc etc.) So i am really inclined to believe supplements may have played some role.

    Thought of sharing with my fellas who are on same boat as a good knowledge for us and others.
    I have been using supplements since years. All I can say is to do thorough research before we purchase. Not all supplements work well. We have to follow google trend, customer reviews from amazon, ebay, walmart etc... and then take the final step to purchase.

    Leave a comment:


  • jmb5026
    replied
    There is no conclusive evidence. I still use supplements. I have hung around bodybuilders/athletes my entire life and I feel like I would've noticed an increase in TC occurrences in the community.

    Leave a comment:


  • Kiwi
    replied
    There is nothing conclusive there - my research when this come up went - what ever - also talking to my Endo and Doc - they did not see any reason whey Creatine / protein should be used, Creatine is also an odd one where its a staple but there is yes and no on its effect, also some guys respond better than others - personally when I have cycled on this I have seen gains. My feeling would be it might be some of the crap / fillers that some cheaper brands may have in them if any thing. Remember there is stacks of stuff that has "links" to cancers. I would enjoy life and make gains. I also lean a bit to the line of research that goes along the lines of TC beginnings are before we are born.

    Cheers

    Leave a comment:


  • JohanusEU
    replied
    I've been working out quite intensively prior to the treatment and was taking Creatine, Proteine and BCAACs. I've been told that it might been a trigger for TC. Now I am in remission, working out again but quite confused whether to use supplements or not.

    Leave a comment:


  • thetaguru
    replied
    This is an interesting thread and medical studies. I did take creatine for a two years in high school but that was it. I had Stage IIB 100% EC and was told that I was basically "born" with TC even though I was not diagnosed until I was 31 so it's hard to determine cause and effect. Three years after TC, I am beginning to workout harder and am researching supplements to see which ones (if any) would have the least amount of risk for a TC survivor.

    Leave a comment:


  • Davepet
    replied
    Well, I should have said *slightly* larger, I guess. About a year or so before my first TC I injured my testicle, it swelled up to nearly twice normal & never went all the way back to normal. I asked the doc about it during a routine physical & had my first I/O within the week.

    Leave a comment:


  • Cordova719
    replied
    Originally posted by Davepet View Post

    I believe it's actually more common for one to be larger than the other than it is for them to be the same size. The same goes for any other organs we have a pair of.

    Dave
    That's what initially made me believe my swollen testicle was all in my head, naturally being a hypochondriac for about a month and a half. It was the story of Tom Green, Lance Armstrong, and countless other testicular cancer survivor stories that stuck in my head and made finally go to the doctor on February 22.

    Leave a comment:


  • Davepet
    replied
    Originally posted by Cordova719 View Post
    I do have to add that my mother told me when I was 3 months old that she was giving me a bath and noticed my left testicle was bigger than the other and she asked a nurse about it and was told it was okay. So who knows. I'm going to play it safe and get off the muscle building supplements.
    I believe it's actually more common for one to be larger than the other than it is for them to be the same size. The same goes for any other organs we have a pair of.

    Dave

    Leave a comment:


  • Cordova719
    replied
    I do have to add that my mother told me when I was 3 months old that she was giving me a bath and noticed my left testicle was bigger than the other and she asked a nurse about it and was told it was okay. So who knows. I'm going to play it safe and get off the muscle building supplements.
    Last edited by Cordova719; 03-21-16, 12:47 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • worried_mom
    replied
    Meanwhile I also believe it's a genetic/DNA issue. Read so much on it. I am not aware of any health conditions in our family, tho. We're currently working on picking up pieces and getting back to normality. Although, TC is very rare, in the last 16 years, I encountered 4 men (one, unfortunately, my son) that had TC. My son also met a man at his work's last Christmas party that had TC 10 years ago. The important thing is that they are all cured now.

    Leave a comment:


  • MarkOne
    replied
    I favour Dave's thought that there is a strong genetic element to this. I have never taken any supplement apart from a few months worth of glucosamine due to a cartlidge problem. I do know that I had a great aunt who died of disgerminoma which I believe is very closely related to the seminoma that I had. Using my family tree I calculate there is a 25% chance I share half my genetic make up with her.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X

Fatal error: Uncaught Database error in vBulletin 5.1.3: [Showing truncated query, original length: 2092] [First 500 chars] Invalid SQL: /** saveDbCache */ SELECT * FROM cacheevent WHERE cacheid IN ('node_27_lvl3data','node_27_lvl1data','node_277309_lvl1data','node_13_lvl1data','node_2_lvl3data','node_13_lvl3data','node_277309_lvl3data','vB_UserPerms32607','vBUserRep_32607','vBAtchmnts_277309','vB_Announcements_27','vb_readperms','getSearchResults_d280c78a8913f345eece5d82e93a8448','vBAtchmnts_307111','vBAtchmnts_307109','vBAtchmnts_307104','vBAtchmnts_307081','vBAtchmnts_286452','vBAtchmnts_286444','vBAtchmnts_28644 [Last 500 chars] UserRep_33033','vBUserRep_33092','vB_UserPerms33250','vBUserRep_33250','vB_UserPerms33600','vBUserRep_33600','vB_UserPerms35061','vBUserRep_35061','pageNav_3','vbnodetext277309_13_0:e2d0574d1c720695035200b754b4159d','vbnodetext_pre_277309_13_0:e2d0574d1c720695035200b754b4159d','vbnodetext284476_13_0:e2d0574d1c720695035200b754b4159d','vbnodetext_pre_284476_13_0:e2d0574d1c72069503 in /home/tccancer/public_html/forum/core/vb/database.php on line 1253