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  • testicles001
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    Tesosterone

    Hi,

    I had oritechtomy and I am on surveillance now. I was feeling very fatigued so I had 3 blood tests to confirm that my testosterone was 8. After several research i've seen that this is the same as a 100 year old guy so I spoke to an endocrinologist and he confirmed that I need an MRI of the pituitary gland as this sends the LH and FSH hormones to testicle to produce testosterone so if something is not working well from brain downwards to testicle this should be investigated. He agreed instead of waiting for an MRI in May for brain, that we should start testo treatment as I am feeling depressed, fatigued, no sex drive etc. I am 34 yeard old.

    My questions are:

    1) Does anyone had also low testo in my age group ?

    2) What tests doctors performed and they manage to find out the real reasons why low testo ?

    3) Which testo treatment do you suggest ?

    4) Any sideeffects such as baldness or infertility ? I wish to have children later on in life and heard that testo can make you infertile.

    Your advise is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks all for your responses in advance !

  • Trekga
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    How are you doing now?

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  • Tuli
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    Originally posted by Nish115 View Post
    Tuli I'm just looking at your signature, how comes you received so much treatment? Why 4xBEP for stage 2 and why the extra 3xVIP? Was it just as your AFP was slightly high?
    Sorry for the wait, but because of AFP, yes. The standard here is to treat until markers are down to normal, and then 2 rounds.

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  • Nish115
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    Tuli I'm just looking at your signature, how comes you received so much treatment? Why 4xBEP for stage 2 and why the extra 3xVIP? Was it just as your AFP was slightly high?

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  • Tuli
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    I'm 31 years old and received my first testosterone injection earlier this month. I had no further tests apart from testosterone levels, since the most likely explanation are the seven rounds of chemo I received last year.

    My doctors suggested injections (Nebido) instead of gels, mostly for convenience's sake. While getting 4 ml of liquid injected was on the uncomfortable side of things (the injection itself didn't hurt at all, but the area of injection felt like bruised for a few days) I am happy with the fact I don't need to apply gel on a daily basis. The current plan is to get an injection every 10 weeks, but we'll see how it goes.

    I haven't yet had a chance to discuss with the doctor, but for what I know testosterone supplements do decrease or probably even halt sperm production, but the effect only lasts for the duration of treatment. hCG can be used to induce testosterone and sperm production in certain cases, but there's really no point except for when you're seriously trying to have a child.

    Even though I have banked sperm, I find practical sterility and this "assisted manhood" little hard to accept. Apart from that I haven't noticed any side effects.

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  • testicles001
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    Thanks everyone for their kind feedback

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  • testicles001
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    Thanks a lot, I also thought that doesn't make sense to take HCG if it is a tumour marker

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  • unotesticulo
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    My Dr. had also suggested that one of the ways we could try to bring up the testosterone levels was via giving me HCG. So, I'm sure it's used in some cases. He also said that given that HCG is a tumor marker, we would not want to go with that route.

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  • Davepet
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    Originally posted by testicles001 View Post
    I read that better take HCG together with testo
    I've never seen that, where did you read it? The only way to take hcg is via injection.It is a prescription hormone used in cases of infertility. Any over the counter hcg either has none or is illegal in the US as it is nt an approved over the counter drug.

    Are you sure it ws hcg & not HGH? Human Growth Hormone)

    Dave

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  • unotesticulo
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    If you're on surveillance, you should think twice before starting taking HCG. After all, that's one of the tumor markers they check for. Your oncologist will get the blood tests back and think you have cancer and start you on chemo. I also have low T (262 ng/dl tested a few weeks back). My urologist says that it happens after orchiectomy sometimes. Hopefully it'll resolve on its own in a few months. He said it can take up to a year after orchiectomy for the T levels to get back to normal. Of course some guys need T treatments, but most don't. Either way, be careful before taking HCG. That would mess up your surveillance and put you at higher risk for the cancer coming back and being undetected. My advice is to not mess with that.

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  • testicles001
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    I read that better take HCG together with testo

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  • roybatty
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    You did have a sperm test before your surgery and treatment ? Just a suggestion but if you got one left - bank some sperm. Its cheap to do so and good emotional insurance.

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  • Trekga
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    i'm hoping they figure out what works as far supplemental T.
    1) My son is 17 years old
    2) No tests yet, wondering if I should have his T levels done when he is finished chem?
    3) n/a
    4) I had no idea that supplemental T impacts fertility even more- ugh, well my son did NOT bank sperm so probably decreased fertility anyway or already infertile.

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  • Joe.shupe22
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    I had my i/o in november, checked T level and itnwas at 279. Im feeling like zombie, zero sex drive, fatigue, even had a few hot flashes, low mood, lots of mood swings and high overall irritability. Oncologist, urologist and primary doctor are all in agreement that if my second blood test is low we will start testosterone treatment right away. One thing my oncologist pointed out is to really pay attentoion to how you feel as you start replacement therapy. Some men feel great at 400, others might feel better at 900. It really is an indiviual thing. I have only had a total testosterone blood test. Im curious, what are the other blood tests that should be taken? I will ask my doctor on monday about them.

    As for treatment I will be trying the gel first

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  • Davepet
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    . Than, I wouldn't expect anything to show up in the pituitary MRI, this looks like primary hypogonadism. Your remaining guy just isn't producing enough. How long ago was your I/O? If it was very recent, you might want to wait & see if it picks up the slack.

    Dave
    Last edited by Davepet; 02-27-17, 03:58 AM.

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