I'd rather eliminate any cancer and have to be on TRT. TRT is a pretty well known entity and with the right docs not difficult to manage.
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6/5/15: bHCG 27,AFP 8.66, LDH 361, 5.6cm lymph node - Stage IIC
6/16/15: Left I/O 85% EC, 10% chorio, 5% yolk sac opinion 2 (mayo) 90% EC, 10% yolk sac
7/7/15: bHCG 56, AFP 42, LDH 322
7/13/15: begin 4xEP, end 9/18/15
10/1/15: bloodwork normal, ct scan shows 2 lymph nodes 1.0cm
10/26/15: 2nd opinion on CT results - lymph nodes normal. Surveillance!
4/6/16: 1.7cm X 1.5cm lymph node found with markers normal.
4/20/16: RPLND @ IU - teratoma only!
10/22/19: all clears up to this date!
4/8/24: stopped monitoring something like 2 years ago, still all clear!
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[QUOTE=the last tommy;n290911maybe im missing something. this is apparently a pretty complicated case... i was really set on partial until all this. i don't even like to take ibuprofen so to be on a lifelong medication at 32 makes me feel very uneasy..[/QUOTE]
Sorry you are in this position, but really the only thing complicated is that you are already down to one & want to avoid the complications of having none. While exceptions exist, the odds of your keeping your right one seem very low, even with a partial.My advise is to not think of TRT as a "drug". It is simply a hormone that you already have in plentiful supply even with just one. You are just replacing what you have had all your life. Yes it is less convenient than having a testicle or two hanging around, but sometimes you have to do what's needed to save your life. It won't be as bad as you are thinking it will be. You will deal with it as many of us have & go on to live your life.
Dave
Jan, 1975: Right I/O, followed by RPLND
Dec, 2009: Left I/O, followed by 3xBEP
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well, saw dr foster 2 weeks ago or so. he said to wait 3 months to scan again and that my cure rate would be the same even if it was cancer. something about it being very small and also the shape of it being not circular has him unconvinced that its cancer. said something like, if you were to scan a random set of 1,000 people with no other testicular related symptoms you'd find some abnormalities that may resolves without even knowing about it so no need to go removing every testicle that has something on it especially if its your only one. anyhow gunna get scanned now in a few months and see what happens next.
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I also have similar issue.
Dec15 My Left testis has 4mm mass, right testis has 2.5cm mass
Jan16 Left testis mass become 6mm, Right I/O
Feb16 Left testis remain the same as 6mm. Still have blood flow, suggest of aggressive cancer.
However my doctor do not allow me to do partial Orchiectomy. He said if it grow >1cm, I need to do a complete orchiectomy or Chemo30/12/16 2.5cm on right testis, 6mm on left testis.( B-HCG 0.34 <2,AFP 4.5 <7)
24/01/17 Right I/O
(Pure embryonal carcinoma, no lymphovascular, no invasion of tunica albuginea, rate testis, epididymis, spermatic cord. )
14/02/17 AFP 2<7, 6mm on left testis
17/02/17 Survelliance
06/03/17 CT scan (Visible lymph nodes in the mediastinum . probable benign reactive appearance)
28/07/17 AFP 35 (normal 7), relapsed confirmed
04/08/17 CT scan (new metastatic para-aortic lymph node 1.6cm AP1.5cm)
10/08/17 Start 3 BEP, AFP201 (normal 7)
06/10/17 End of 3 BEP, AFP3 (normal7)
17/10/17 CT scan
27/10/17 Prev left para-aortic lymph node not seen. AFP2(normal 7), B-HCG <2, LDH 208( normal 118-220)
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Originally posted by hinear View PostI also have similar issue.
Dec15 My Left testis has 4mm mass, right testis has 2.5cm mass
Jan16 Left testis mass become 6mm, Right I/O
Feb16 Left testis remain the same as 6mm. Still have blood flow, suggest of aggressive cancer.
However my doctor do not allow me to do partial Orchiectomy. He said if it grow >1cm, I need to do a complete orchiectomy or Chemo
ah they suggested surveillance for the 2nd small finding for you too, eh? sounds like you have a similar situation as myself, except yours came all at once. how often are you getting scans? are you in the usa, may i ask? good luck to you, i am a few months away from my next scan and finding myself pretty nervous.
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I keep doing ultrasound and blood test once per month.
The recent scan is 30/3, the size remain the same as 5-6mm, tumor to be consider.
The urologist told me that over 3-4months, the size remain the same. As I have one testicular left, it is worth to keep watching it. Some tumor growth to 1cm and stop growing.
If it grows >1cm, there are 2 options
1. Treat as relapse and do 3-4 cycle of BEP. If the tumor size reduce, no need to do orchiectomy
2. Left Orchiectomy
I am from Hong Kong. I visit both public and private hospitals for consultation, I believe they have enough professionals.30/12/16 2.5cm on right testis, 6mm on left testis.( B-HCG 0.34 <2,AFP 4.5 <7)
24/01/17 Right I/O
(Pure embryonal carcinoma, no lymphovascular, no invasion of tunica albuginea, rate testis, epididymis, spermatic cord. )
14/02/17 AFP 2<7, 6mm on left testis
17/02/17 Survelliance
06/03/17 CT scan (Visible lymph nodes in the mediastinum . probable benign reactive appearance)
28/07/17 AFP 35 (normal 7), relapsed confirmed
04/08/17 CT scan (new metastatic para-aortic lymph node 1.6cm AP1.5cm)
10/08/17 Start 3 BEP, AFP201 (normal 7)
06/10/17 End of 3 BEP, AFP3 (normal7)
17/10/17 CT scan
27/10/17 Prev left para-aortic lymph node not seen. AFP2(normal 7), B-HCG <2, LDH 208( normal 118-220)
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Originally posted by the last tommy View Postok so the next turn of events... and maybe this should go into the 2Xers forum at some point. i don't know, but i'll keep it here for now. i guess the same people are looking at it either way
anyhow, got a call from the dr. dr says neither he nor the other 20 something urologists in his urology group have seen a cancer spread to the second testicle or a new cancer occur in the second testicle. they were pretty evenly split on remove/surveil. so i am being referred to another urologist in town who apparently has had experience opening testicles, removing lesions, and sewing them back. hes a fertility specialist which seemed odd. is anyone surprised by this? i guess because i have been reading these forums that i thought any dr would've seen a patient with cancer in two testicles at least once, but a whole group having not?
well, now to make another dr's appointment.
Hi Tommy
This is not odd at all. I had to have a testicular biopsy on my other testicle to extract sperm by a leading fertility Urologist in Boston, MA, USA. I required this because I found out I was azoospermic meaning I had little to no sperm production. While it was not the same exact procedure as you are having these doctors are always in that area and have opened scrotums and testicles of many men with their two hands. They use a massive microscope during the operation but, I'm not sure about how it works to remove a tumor.
When I had my orchy done I actually had two small nodes that were found in my left testicle. I mention this because partial biopsies can miss tumors, which can cause a spread of the cancer. I don't want to scare you but it is very risky. I don't think they even do it in the states, at least the two Urologists I spoke to wouldn't and one of them was the Dr who did my TESA/TASA biopsy.
If it were me, I'd probably have them remove the testicle and go on testosterone replacement therapy. Oh and by the way, the first three days after the testicular biopsy are pure hell. Every moment you stand up it feels like Bruce Lee has a death grip on your sac. But its your body, your life and ultimately your choice.
I wish you all the best luck and please keep us updated.
Cheers,
Daniel
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Originally posted by hinear View PostIf it grows >1cm, there are 2 options
1. Treat as relapse and do 3-4 cycle of BEP. If the tumor size reduce, no need to do orchiectomy
2. Left Orchiectomy
I am from Hong Kong. I visit both public and private hospitals for consultation, I believe they have enough professionals.
DaveJan, 1975: Right I/O, followed by RPLND
Dec, 2009: Left I/O, followed by 3xBEP
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Originally posted by Davepet View PostBEP is not very effective on tumors in the testicle, that proposal would have me questioning my doctor's experience.
Dave
However, I prefer to take a chance rather than losing the remaining testicular.
30/12/16 2.5cm on right testis, 6mm on left testis.( B-HCG 0.34 <2,AFP 4.5 <7)
24/01/17 Right I/O
(Pure embryonal carcinoma, no lymphovascular, no invasion of tunica albuginea, rate testis, epididymis, spermatic cord. )
14/02/17 AFP 2<7, 6mm on left testis
17/02/17 Survelliance
06/03/17 CT scan (Visible lymph nodes in the mediastinum . probable benign reactive appearance)
28/07/17 AFP 35 (normal 7), relapsed confirmed
04/08/17 CT scan (new metastatic para-aortic lymph node 1.6cm AP1.5cm)
10/08/17 Start 3 BEP, AFP201 (normal 7)
06/10/17 End of 3 BEP, AFP3 (normal7)
17/10/17 CT scan
27/10/17 Prev left para-aortic lymph node not seen. AFP2(normal 7), B-HCG <2, LDH 208( normal 118-220)
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Originally posted by hinear View Post
Yes it is not very effective. The Doctor mentioned to me as well.
However, I prefer to take a chance rather than losing the remaining testicular.
Please, let us know what you decide, and what the outcome is,
DaveLast edited by Davepet; 05-09-17, 05:35 AM.Jan, 1975: Right I/O, followed by RPLND
Dec, 2009: Left I/O, followed by 3xBEP
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