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    Any special diet?

    I have been hearing a lot about what to eat or not eat to kill cancer. There is a lot of books there. Anyone try any anticancer diet?

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    There are things to watch out for like raw food that could harbor bacteria, especially if you are on chemo, and the amount of antioxidants you eat, again if you are on chemo, need to be monitored.

    However, while there is DEFINITELY something to eating a better diet effecting your rates of developing some cancers, there is absolutely no such thing as an anti-cancer diet or anything that you can eat that will kill the cancerous cells. There are a lot of books, but the science is clear - there is no special anti-cancer diet, sorry.

    What you can do depends on what you are up for. My husband was in the 'I have cancer, screw my diet' camp through his treatments, and I was not going to argue with him - he went with comfort food. A lot of people do the reverse and feel better for it, so talk to your oncologist and maybe a nutritionist, let them help guide you depending on your treatment, and a healthy diet is always a good plan long-term.
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    Thanks for the answer. I am quite confused about the antioxidants. I always though you should eat them ad much as you can so are you suggesting someone should lower intake of them when is battling cancer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpalka6 View Post
    Thanks for the answer. I am quite confused about the antioxidants. I always though you should eat them ad much as you can so are you suggesting someone should lower intake of them when is battling cancer?
    Some sources feel that antioxidants also help the cancer cells as well as the normal cells. There does not seem to be widespread agreement on this (at least that I have found). I take supplements & a number of antioxidant rich foods & did not alter that while getting chemo, didn't seem to hurt anything, YMMV.

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    Jan, 1975: Right I/O, followed by RPLND
    Dec, 2009: Left I/O, followed by 3xBEP

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    Some chemotherapies work specifically by inducing oxidation, including those used in the majority of testicular cancer treatments (BEP), so while on those therapies it is advisable to avoid antioxidants, purely based on theory (it is far too unethical to do a clinical trial to evaluate this since you would be basically attempting to make a person's chemo treatments less efficacious, so it may be that there is no overall effect, like in Dave's experience, but it is also truly not worth the risk).

    However, that is while on certain chemos, and not to be taken into a broader setting of post-cancer diagnosis. Antioxidants are fine in general, and there are some studies showing they might help prevent cancers/may be useful as therapies themselves, so as long as your husband isn't on chemo, they are a good idea.

    Sorry if that answer is long-winded.
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    4xBEP 1-4/11, AFP=22, 5*7 RP mass, tx failed
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    Salvage RPLND @Indy 6/29/11, metastatic mixed germ cell tumor with yolk sac, seminoma and teratoma
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    http://www.drlam.com/articles/cancer...tioxidants.asp

    Before he got diagnosed and now he drinks 2 cups of fresh green squeezed juice and 2 cups of green smoothie. Now after diagnosis he added 20 gram of spirulina which contains a lot SOD. Do you think its to much? We don't know yet if he needs any treatment.... what do you think? As far I understood you shouldn't have SOD during chemo? But before and after is OK right? My husband is such as healthy frick I can believe the cancer happened to him.
    Last edited by mpalka6; 07-18-12 at 02:17 PM.

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    I am assuming SOD = super oxide dismutase? He is fine now, the only time to discuss it with the oncologist is if chemo is needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by mpalka6 View Post
    My husband is such as healthy freak I can believe the cancer happened to him.
    Cancer doesn't discriminate, and while a healthier lifestyle in a population does lead to decreased incidences of various cancers, it is (most often) truly random crappy chance. Plus with TC it is most likely genetic events that occurred in utero - meaning when your husband was a developing fetus, so nothing he did or didn't do changed his chances of developing cancer.

    All we can do is use logic - avoid smoking, eat healthier, don't bath in radiation - to decrease our chances of developing cancers.
    Tracy
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    Left I/O 12/31/10.
    4xBEP 1-4/11, AFP=22, 5*7 RP mass, tx failed
    1.5 x VeIP 5-6/11; tx failed, AFP/b-hCG rising
    Salvage RPLND @Indy 6/29/11, metastatic mixed germ cell tumor with yolk sac, seminoma and teratoma
    Remission! AFP steady since 9/2011; 1.5 years ALL CLEAR

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    Thank you Tracy...you are right. I'm just mad with life now

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    Quote Originally Posted by CancerSux View Post
    I am assuming SOD = super oxide dismutase? rs.
    That what it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpalka6 View Post
    I'm just mad with life now
    I totally understand, agree, empathize and am there with you at times myself.
    Tracy
    Cancer pharmacologist, caregiver blog here

    Wife to Kel, dx 12/30/11 Stage IIIc (poor) embyronal, AFP 13700, 10x11 cm retroperitoneal mass, 1 cm^2 lung met
    Left I/O 12/31/10.
    4xBEP 1-4/11, AFP=22, 5*7 RP mass, tx failed
    1.5 x VeIP 5-6/11; tx failed, AFP/b-hCG rising
    Salvage RPLND @Indy 6/29/11, metastatic mixed germ cell tumor with yolk sac, seminoma and teratoma
    Remission! AFP steady since 9/2011; 1.5 years ALL CLEAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by CancerSux View Post
    I totally understand, agree, empathize and am there with you at times myself.
    Thanks for all your help.

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