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Old 02-21-06, 05:32 AM
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Conceiving techniques with one testicle

Hi All

Apologies for the poorly worded header, I couldn't think of a better way to put it..

A friend of my wife's brother in law may have had TC or may not, it seems to be a very grey area where my wife's friend is concerned, when I was first diagnosed she said I could speak to her brother in law as he went through the experience of having a testicle removed due to having a lump. However it turns out that the lump was benign. I didn't speak to him at the time because I didn't really want to speak to someone who had defied the odds - as you can imagine it was the cancer that bothered me more rather than the removal so in a weird way speaking to someone who hadn't had cancer wasn't really where I needed to be coming from at that stage.. I hope you guys can understand what I'm getting at, if anyone can you can..

Anyway, then apparently it turned out that I had been given the wrong info and the guy had had a tumor and was under surveilance, i don't mean that they later found out it was malignant, rather that it was all the time and my wifes friend had been confused with the info she was giving us..

Anyway the guy in question has since had 2 children and apparently according to this same friend of my wifes his doctor told him to leave 24hrs between each attempt to conceive as because he only has one testicle it takes twice as much time to recreate enough sperm.

This just didn't ring true with me and it has opened up a whole tin of worms (or sperm ) As far as I know opinions vary with regards to the best way to conceive - i.e. try every night or leave it a day or so but I have never heard of someone with a single testicle being advised to approach conceiving in a different way that someone with 2..

Sorry to ramble, I hope you can grasp what I am trying to get at. You guys are the only people I feel comfortable talking to about this.

Any opinions / links etc would be gratefully received..

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Old 02-26-06, 09:51 PM
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This is an interesting question.

Less frequency = possibly more sperm, but less chance of getting the most fertile moment.

Although more often doesn't necessarily mean less sperm. It just means the same amount of sperm spread out over more times.

Ha! I guess I don't know. You might produce more sperm if you try more often? A question for our urologists, i guess.

Of course, not looking at it from the conception perspective, I'd vote in favor of the "more often" route.

I guess you could always bank too. They'd tell you when you've stockpiled enough of those bad boys to do the trick.
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Old 02-27-06, 08:03 AM
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When my son was banking sperm the fertility doctor recommended that he do it over two weeks leaving days in between so he would have good counts. His oncologist postponed chemo so he would have enough banked. Dianne
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Old 02-27-06, 09:01 AM
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I had to bank prior to chemo and they told me the same thing - 3 days in between each "deposit".

Although I have read somewhere recently that they are now thinking that whilst the volume of liquid goes up if you leave a gap the actually sperm count stays the same. It looks this is another area where the knowledge is developing..

With all this in mind I am still to see any evidence that someone with one testicle should have a different regime to someone with 2..
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Old 02-27-06, 04:16 PM
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my experience

hi there,

Just thought I would chime in here...

We got pregnant a year after chemo, one testicle remaining, no problem.

We didn't do anything special: just went about out things as we felt like it.

I wouldn't get too worried about all this.

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Other considerations to keep in mind:

** Sperm quality is highest at 3-5 d; after that it gets somewhat "stale" and sperm mortality increases w/ a concomitant decrease in mobility of the lil' swimmers.

** Sperm quality is adversely affected by higher than body temperature; in the days ahead of taking "aim", avoid saunas, hot tubs, etc.

Having said that, my wife is now about six weeks pregnant, conceived "au naturel", and I only got to unload after 21 d. Bulls eye! If the pregnancy continues and carries thru (it's still early in the game): this child will know which testicle it was coming from! Not like the rest of us, who have to wonder if we are of the right or left persuasion.

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Old 02-28-06, 05:55 AM
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Hi JS

Thanks for the reply and congrats on your little 'un. To be honest we are not really stressing over this, we have waited a year after chemo before starting to try on my docs advice and we are pretty much just going with the flow.. its just that i got this info 3rd hand and it didn't ring true..

Matthias: congrats on your news too - you have my best wishes and hopes
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Having said that, my wife is now about six weeks pregnant, conceived "au naturel"
Fantastic news! Congratulations!!
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Old 03-08-06, 06:20 PM
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Just for the entertainment value:

Wife (pregnant, 7 wks out) ended up on ZOFRAN due to a condition called hyperemesis (her words: "Feels like chemotherapy; constant nausea and vomitting 24/7; altered taste sensation: water, yuck!; if I ever get cancer just shoot me, no chemo!").

Bizarre. I have TC, wife ends up on Zofran due to pregnancy. (If the tablets don't work, but which they apparently do, she'd have the IV/hospital option).





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Other considerations to keep in mind:

** Sperm quality is highest at 3-5 d; after that it gets somewhat "stale" and sperm mortality increases w/ a concomitant decrease in mobility of the lil' swimmers.

** Sperm quality is adversely affected by higher than body temperature; in the days ahead of taking "aim", avoid saunas, hot tubs, etc.

Having said that, my wife is now about six weeks pregnant, conceived "au naturel", and I only got to unload after 21 d. Bulls eye! If the pregnancy continues and carries thru (it's still early in the game): this child will know which testicle it was coming from! Not like the rest of us, who have to wonder if we are of the right or left persuasion.
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Old 03-08-06, 06:39 PM
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Congratulations on the new edition to Matthias and your better half!!!!!!
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Old 10-14-06, 06:21 PM
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The wife is no longer pregnant. We had a healthy baby gal delivered Oct 12, conceived on one "cylinder" only.

Best wishes to all of us. /M


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Other considerations to keep in mind:

** Sperm quality is highest at 3-5 d; after that it gets somewhat "stale" and sperm mortality increases w/ a concomitant decrease in mobility of the lil' swimmers.

** Sperm quality is adversely affected by higher than body temperature; in the days ahead of taking "aim", avoid saunas, hot tubs, etc.

Having said that, my wife is now about six weeks pregnant, conceived "au naturel", and I only got to unload after 21 d. Bulls eye! If the pregnancy continues and carries thru (it's still early in the game): this child will know which testicle it was coming from! Not like the rest of us, who have to wonder if we are of the right or left persuasion.
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Old 10-14-06, 07:34 PM
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GREAT NEWS Who says one cylinder is a bad thing
Now all the fun starts.
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Old 10-15-06, 09:32 AM
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Congratulations. That's great news. Now, how about some pictures.
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After my surgery two years ago we had twins. In fact we just had another two weeks ago.

Can't tell you we did anything specific. The Big Guy Upstairs will take care of you if you ask.

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The wife is no longer pregnant. We had a healthy baby gal delivered Oct 12, conceived on one "cylinder" only.
Congratulations, Matthias!!
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Old 10-17-06, 04:29 AM
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Great news, Matthias.. I second dadmo's request for pictures!
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By request: Sylvia Lisa-Marie Pohl, * Oct. 12, 2006; 7 lbs., 20 in.

For the record, and in light of the subject of this thread, I would like to state that our "conceiving technique" was unchanged from prior to the I/O.
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I can understand your JOY. Wishing you all the best!

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